- The following letter to the editor was submitted by Northville resident Kathy Morris
In support of voting YES for the Northville Public Schools Technology Bond on November 6th, I discussed the proposal with my youngest child, who is also a voter, college Freshman, 2012 graduate of Northville High School and recent first-hand user of the school district’s current technology.
This is what she said: “The time wasted using the old, extremely slow, not always compatible, partially working computers at Northville High School was almost unacceptable for where students and schools need to be technologically.”
While challenging economic times and severe public school funding cuts by the State unfortunately delayed much-needed technology improvements when my children were attending Northville Public Schools, we now have the opportunity to remedy this. We all know that technology will continue to advance and that we must keep pace. We also want our students to have relevant learning experiences that will facilitate essential college and career readiness. We can even have this positive impact with our Northville taxpayer dollars for the
Technology Bond staying right in our own community. And, we can do this and maintain the current education millage rate at the same time, because the Technology Bond millage would take the place of the anticipated reduction in the school district’s debt millage retirement.
Simply, we must vote YES on the Technology Bond proposal on November 6th. It is the right thing to do for our current students, public schools, community, property values and future. We really cannot afford to do otherwise.
Kathy Morris
Interested in submitting a Letter to the Editor? Email it to nancy.kelsey@patch.com.
Patrick J Oneil
5:24 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012
I attended a party on Saturday and this very topic was discussed out of the 40 people (voters) attending only 2 people supported the bond. Why? Class sizes. Northville has more students per classroom than any other neighboring district. Few parents will vote for technology when 38 students dangerously crowd a chemistry class. Northville has never been very good at getting their message to the voters and this technology bond is no different. Although the NEF made a good case for artificial turf. There are four voters in my household and we will vote no until class sizes change.
ConcernedParent
6:44 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
I believe this is called cutting off your nose to spite your face. As you must know, these are two very distinct pockets of money. The amount the school receives per pupil from the District is set, but the more we can bring in from bonds like this to offset technology and other costs, the more money can be shifted to the classrooms.
Northville's school funding is in a different position to many neighboring districts, for complex historical reasons. Without this technology bond the district will fall farther behind -- if you've seen the technology report, you'll see just how old the computer equipment in the schools is! And if you vote to let our schools decline, your property values will soon follow. Please think again before you cast your vote.
SueDavis
8:06 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012
I completely agree. Research demonstrates the class size is the most important factor in student achievement, especially struggling students. This is absolutely crazy. At the high school there are not enough chairs in some classes. I cannot believe that this is not a violation of the fire code. I taught in Texas and state fire code mandates 50 square feet per student. Is it going to take a disaster to wake up the board. I too will vote no.
ConcernedParent
6:54 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Class sizes are a major problem, but please rethink this decision. Why punish the children further for things that are outside of their control? The District desperately needs to upgrade its technology, and without the bond the chances of bringing class sizes down actually decreases. I keep saying this, because I think it's important -- the high standard of our schools are what keeps Northville on the map. Please reconsider before you vote against this bond.
Patrick J Oneil
8:12 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Concerned parent, you are absolutely correct the technology in the district is an embarrassment. And yes we do know that all districts have suffered badly from state cuts. What is more embarrassing is that none of the neighboring districts have class sizes as large as Northville. Call around and find out. It is negligent and unsafe to put students at risk like this. How is any teacher going to use new technology in a class of forty? The administration has the means to fix this right now. I love MoMMiller's suggestions. Fix the overcrowding especially at the high school and people will pass this bond. You know the district will do nothing. We will vote No.
ConcernedParent
8:21 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I'm struggling to follow your logic, Patrick, although I share your feelings about class sizes. If you vote no we will have still have huge class sizes and crappy technology. If you vote yes, at least the technology portion will be addressed! If you have an issue to raise with the funding of our schools, by all means raise these issues with the board, but also speak with your legislators, who have voted in the cuts we've had to deal with over the last few years.
But the other point is that if we can pay for technology upgrades with the bond, this WILL release other money to be used for other purposes. I hate the large class sizes. I think as a district we are in danger of losing the high reputation of our schools because of it. But I don't see how voting against the bond will get us closer to the goal of improving our schools.
parent
6:54 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
What happened to the funds raised by the sinking fund bond of just a year ago? This distircit needs to address the basics, like class size and class work. How about buses to get our middle schoolers and high schoolers to school? Parents are still forced to drive them in the am. My child would have to walk nearly 2 miles to get a bus in the am. Really! They spend too much money on "turf" and other unnecessary things that DO NOT impact learning. Look at all of the press the Board placed on that issue. I have 5 children that graduated from Norhtville and the stories they tell would open eyes to WASTE. We All will vote NO.
erbrel
7:01 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
The district did NOT spend money on turf - it was funded by donations. The press for the turf was initiated by the fundraising committee (Turf Club)- not the district. FYI - the technology bond also includes money for buses. The sinking fund cannot be used for computers (says the State of Michigan) Please rely on facts - not assumptions and heresay.
parent
8:15 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Funding for buses is to PURCHASE not to restore SERVICES!!!
erbrel
6:56 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
The district cannot ask for more funds for teachers. Those are dictated by the State of Michigan. Computers will need to be replaced and expensive technology patches will need to be made anyway. Without the bond these funds will come from direct operating expense, taking more funds away from teachers. Please become an INFORMED parent about school funding - the district cannot in any way ask for money to fund teachers - only capital improvements - via a bond. On another note, our school board has refinanced existing bonds so that this bond will NOT raise taxes in any way, in fact if the bond does not pass, your taxes may go down by a whopping $50 per year. I
parent
6:59 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
erbrel, I will take the $50 savings and spend it wisely!!! Just like Ben Franklin said, "a penny saved is a penny earned." Throwing more money at waste is not the answer.
erbrel
7:56 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Our children are not a waste, our public schools are what keeps our property values in Northville where they are.
Fixing outdated technology costs more than replacing with new, that is a waste. Please, be fully informed,
parent
7:39 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Enbrel,
You must work for the District or Government! Always thinking of ways to spend money. Your comments prove that. Just a little $50 more of savings. Every entitiy on property taxes makes that claim. I don't care what it is; DIA, Zoo, police, fire, library etc. Guess what it all adds up.
Is tehcnology a "need" or a "want". Do they have technolgy? Yes. Do they use it wisely? NO!
erbrel
7:58 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Would love to hear how we could use our outdated technology more wisely. I have done the research - have you? FYI, I am a republican and work in the private sector..
parent
8:11 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
erbrel,
Do you have any kids in the schools? Obviously NOT! They rarely use the technology they already own. It was replaced not that long ago too. This school district has never learned to SAVE. When money was plentiful they spent and spent foolishly! I fully understand the fund equity and the funding of schools so don't insult me to make your point of being "informed". I am totally informed. They spend 80% of that fund of over 60 million for salaries and benefits. If you take the 20% of 12 million and save some for these expenses the Board would not have to put everything back on the taxpayer. Oh and by the way, that fund equity is not a gift from the state. It is paid by tax dollars from property taxes too. So yes, we do pay for the teachers too. You said this bond is going to address buses. NEWS FLASH! It is to PURCHASE new buses not to RE$STORE BUSING!!!! Big Difference. DO YOU KNOW THE TRUTH???? Why do we need new buses? We are outsourcing the services and under utilizing the buses we own. That is another waste. I would love to drive a porsche, however, that would simply be a waste for my needs. Get the picture?
parent
8:13 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Oh by the way enbrel, I work in TECHNOLOGY!!!!
Patrick J Oneil
4:28 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Any technology benefits that make their way to the classroom will be unused with class sizes that are unsafe. Yes we know that this money cannot be used for more teachers so what is the point of passing this bond when the typical high school class is simply an exercise in crowd control. I will bet anyone a dinner that test scores will plummet now. A once great school district is soon to be below average.
parent
4:59 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Patrick, RIGHT ON!!! I would love the dinner but I agree with you. This district needs to go back to basics instead of gaining more technology that they could/would NEVER utilize to its greatest benefit. It is like having a deluxe appliance but only using it for basic functions. They learn the key board in elementary. What does new technology provide there? Middle school not much more and HS not really utilized much at all. Thanks for sharing the FACTS!
ConcernedParent
1:57 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
How on earth are our children going to compete in a world where technology is so key, if we don't at least upgrade old equipment? Our current technology is an embarrassment even compared with neighboring districts. There are 10 year old computers, and software that is no longer compatible with the versions students are using at home so that homework they bring in can't be shared. While I understand your point, education in 2012 cannot be about 'back to basics' when the world is moving at such a pace and our children will need to compete in a global economy.
MoMMiller
5:31 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
I sadly agree with parent and Patrick and here is why. I work afternoons and cannot attend a board meeting. I called the board office to discuss my concern for my son's class size and told them about working afternoons. I was told that I was "out of luck". Why can't the board combine administrative responsibilities like other districts? Save over $100K by making a vice-principal the athletic director. Eliminate the new high school vice-principal and save another $100K. That is 5-6 teachers to reduce class size. If the board office REALLY cared about students they would bend over backwards to do things like that
leaving soon
11:12 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Why do you need wireless in the buildings as well. Now we have kids with smart phones who can get on at anytime. How will the teachers know they have 38 students in a class. Maybe they should have done this 6 years ago when they went to windows xp just to windows xp.
Denise Nash
2:10 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Everyone please remember this - that our elected officials are the ones that CUT the funding to NPS! We have a chance to vote our representative out of office in November, and I suggest we all send a strong message to Lansing. Personally, I value our schools over their corporate tax giveaways. Remember in November 2012 and 2014.
parent
6:42 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Denise,
The School Board has made far too many BAD decisions over the last decade on their spending as Tamara has stated. The guys in Lansing did what should have been done years ago, MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE!!!! The lack of accountablity has now come home to rest. Had they SAVED appropriately, instead of relying on more $ from Lansing they would not be where they are today. The Board has never really put the needs of the kids first. If they did they would never have cut the bus service which is such a small amount of $ in the budget. They did that to make it hurt parents and kids. They all should be ashamed of themselves. It is sad that they can't cut some of their ancillary staff and Administrators to put teachers back in the classrooms. Now wouldn't that be an idea. Another waste is that just a couple years ago they spent nearly 100k to find a new Superindendent. Isn't it amazing that they could have saved all of that expense since she was sitting in the office next to Leonard? What a SHOW they put on for that event. Then the salary that was offered was more than the Governors, Plymouth/Canton's Administrator with 3 times the kids. Isn't that a little off the chart? That is just a small example of WASTE! I applaud the people in Lansing for doing what needed to be done. Government needs to be held accountable, even as far down as a School Board. You OBVIOUSLY do not know how Government is funded.
Tamara
3:32 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
I would like to vote to give the schools better technology because it would be great to have. But I wont, and this is why. The more money you give the government, the more they will spend. The spending ultimately moves into the waste category. It never fails. NPS has done the same thing. This is why the state knows they can cut cut cut. They want schools to cut the waste. After a few years of this, we are now in a spot with class sizes that are way too big. Until the government is in a position to turn the money faucet back on we have to tighten our belts and suffer the consequences of our waste. If lessons are not taught at times like these, then they will never be learned. It doesn't take a CPA to know that when you have extra money you should save it for when you need it. GM and Crysler did the same thing a few years ago. They didn't make the necessary (yet basic) wise business decisions so crap hit the fan. We all suffered, and many of us are still suffering. As a result, the state made the cuts because they had to. Contrary to some people's beliefs you cannot spend what you don't have. If you do you are wrong in what you are doing and it will eventually catch up to you.
ConcernedParent
6:38 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
My fourth grader had one chance to go through fourth grade. One chance. And she had to face fourth grade with 30 other children in her class, with predictable consequences. I would like to know how many parents in Northville Schools are now sending their children for tutoring because they are simply not able to get help in the overcrowded classroom.
You are, I'm sure aware that the per pupil funding amount from the state has stayed constant since 2001, despite rising costs, inflation and increasing technology costs. And people seem to forget that last year the SCHOOL AID FUND HAD A SURPLUS. Rather than putting this to the K-12 schools for which it was intended, it was given to the Community Colleges and to offset a $1.8 billion tax cut to business. I don't see these businesses being asked to provide any metrics to the state on their success, whereas schools are being bombarded with best practices requirements that are costing more, wasting time, and taking away from the education our children are supposed to receive.
You clearly do not have children in the Public School system. Even if you don't here is the truth -- why do people move to Northville? Because it's cute? Because of the July 4th Parade? The number one reason people move here is BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS. If we continue to allow the attack on our schools, we will ultimately destroy the life of our community. Please consider that before perpetuating the myth of 'waste' in our Public Schools.
parent
6:49 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Tamara,
Thank you for such a clear message. That is one word in a snapshot; ACOUNTABILITY! It has been lacking for far too long. Yes, many of the issues we see today are from poor planning and a lack of SAVING! Corporations must do the same. Government seems to think they are exempt from this but not so when the economy demonstrates that Government is only well funded when Business is profitable. You understand that but few do. Washington, Lansing and Northville must all learn to spend WISELY. Far too much WASTE!!!
Denise Nash
2:54 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Tamara and parent - The idea that by giving corporations more money and incentives via tax breaks while in the meantime cutting middle class jobs is a losing proposition. Ask any business person - do they need more money? Or more customers? The honest ones will tell you that they want more customers. We won't have more customers by cutting middle income jobs and adding minimum wage jobs. That is what is happening with all this outsourcing. It is one of many things slowing the economic recovery. If you consider janitors or bus drivers working for the school district a "waste" then I guess we just have to agree to disagree.
I agree that pensions and healthcare needed to be addressed. When large private corporations can't afford this type of program, then certainly the public sector can't afford it. This has been the way it works - the public sector lags behind the private sector, both in receiving these benefits as well as losing them. But taking the money saved and giving it to companies that do not have in turn an increased product demand is WASTE.
Don't kid yourselves about the cuts to education - Betsy DeVos is funding the republicans, and she is in favor of charter and virtual schools. She has been heard to say that public schools are a moral cesspool. Many decisions in Lansing are made based on the desires of Mrs. DeVos. The weakening of public schools will continue until all districts are like Muskegon Heights if the current pattern continues.